How is it valid Catholic if you're not Roman Catholic?
"What is the Old Catholic Church?"
Old Catholic Church is part of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic
Church as founded by Jesus Christ. The Old Catholic Church broke-off
from the Roman Catholic Church after Vatican I in the 1870's. The major
reason for the break-off was the Pope at that time centralized all
Church authority to himself (dogma of Papal Infallibility -"Causa Finita Est.") instead of the time honored tradition of the "Infallibity of Bishops in General Council" having authority over the Church.
Old Catholic Church holds and keeps Catholic Tradition as established
by the Apostles in the First Century. We are truly 'Apostolic' and
therefore truly 'Old' Catholic. We reject man-made political agendas and
regulations. We do not come under the direct authority of the Pope in
Rome, but under the authority of the Presiding Bishop of our
jurisdiction, who 'holds and keeps' Apostolic Succession through both
the Holy See of Rome (Roman Catholic Church) and the Holy See of Antioch
(Eastern Catholic Church). Both of these Holy Sees were founded by the
Apostle Saint Peter (“upon this rock I will build My Church” – Matthew 16:18). So, we as Old Catholic Priests trace our lineage and our ecclesiastical authority to Saint Peter.
The Catholic (universal) Church is made up of sister congregations:
- Roman Catholic
- Old Catholic
- Eastern 'sui iuris'and Eastern Greek Orthodox
- “Oriental” Churches, such as Coptic, Syrian and “Nestorian” Churches.
term "Old Catholic" is simply an adherence to the beliefs and practices
of the post-Apostolic era Church tracing their Apostolic Succession
through the Apostles to the Roman Catholic Church, participate in the
full sacramental ministry of the Church.
Some of the questions often asked about Old Catholics:
Does the Roman Catholic Church recognize the Sacraments of the Old Catholic Church?
(Canon. 845 §1,2) The Code of Canon Law of the Roman Catholic Church
states: “The sacraments of baptism, confirmation and orders cannot be
repeated since they imprint a character."
Is the Catholic wedding valid performed outside the Church?
it is. According to (Canon 1118,§ 2,3,) The Code of Canon Law of the
Roman Catholic Church: It is left at the discretion and decision of the
Ordinary to authorize a wedding outside the Church in any suitable
place. In our Old Catholic tradition, it is authorized.
has been referred to as the "golden rule" of Church law. It states:
"The salvation of souls, which must always be the supreme law in the
Church, is to be kept before one’s eyes".
Is a marriage between a baptized Catholic and a non-Catholic legal and valid?
a marriage between a Catholic and non-Catholic couple is valid and
legal, according to the Code of Canon Law 1118 §3, of the Vatican.
+ Utrecht receives Rights of Autonomy from Blessed Pope Eugene III in 1145.
This right was confirmed in 1215 at the Fourth Lateran Council (Canons
23 and 24). In 1520, Pope Leo X decreed in his papal bull Debitum Pastoralis that
the Bishop of Utrecht, his successors, his clergy, and his laity were
exempt from trial by an external tribunal of canon law in perpetuity,
and that any such proceedings would be ipso facto null and void. This autonomy became known as Leonine privilege.
+ Privilege subsequently reconfirmed in two Church Councils in 1520 and 1717.
Roman Catholics as well as others will often ask, what is your relationship with the Roman Catholic Church now?
+ "Dominus Iesus"
issued by the Roman Catholic Magisterium in 2000, signed by Pope John
Paul II on June 16, and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger on August 6, states: "The
Churches which, while not existing in perfect communion with the
[Roman] Catholic Church, remain united to her by means of the closest
bonds, that is, by apostolic succession and a valid Eucharist, are true
"Therefore, these separated
Churches and communities as such ... have by no means been deprived of
significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the Spirit
of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which
derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth
entrusted to the Catholic Church". IV. Unicity and Unity of the Church,
(Vatican - October 30, 2014)
Catholic Church members met with Pope Francis in the latest of a
continuing ecumenical dialogue between the Old Catholic Church and the
Roman Catholic Church.
Pope Francis explained that since the Second Vatican Council,
has been possible to build new bridges of a more profound mutual
understanding and practical co-operation, between the Old Catholic
Church and the Roman Catholic Church
“There is a thirst for God”, the Pope stated.
“There is a profound desire to recover a sense of purpose in life.
There is an urgent need for a convincing witness to the truth and values
of the Gospel." He suggested that the two communions can “support and encourage one another, especially at the level of parishes and local communities."
* The Catholic Almanac:
"The Roman Church recognizes the validity of Old Catholic Orders and other Sacraments." Felican A. Roy, OFM, 1974; p. 368.
* The Catholic Dictionary by Donald Attwater, bearing the "imprimatur" of Cardinal Hayes of New York:
States of the Old Catholic Church - "Their orders and sacraments are valid."
* Separated Brethren:
have no reason to doubt that the Old Catholic Orders are valid. The
Apostolic Succession does not depend on the obedience to the See of
Peter, but rather on the objective line of succession from Apostolic
sources, the proper manner and form, and the proper intention, likewise
Old Catholic bishops are bishops in Apostolic Succession. The Old
Catholics, like the Orthodox, possess a valid priesthood." William J.
Whalens, pp. 204, 248.
The Old Catholic Church administers the
Sacraments as one may be very familiar with. We are perhaps 90% the same
as one may be used to.
The exceptions that we offer are:
"Open Communion" - Communion is offered to, and encouraged to be received by, all Believing Christians.
Absolution" - During the Penitential Rite of Mass, a moment is taken to
confess sins silently and personally to God, then the Priest grants
General Absolution, or one may choose to confess to a Priest in person.
"Sacraments" - May be administered outside the confines of the Church.
Orders" - Are open to Married and Single Clergy. Another question often
asked is, how can a priest be married? Clerical celibacy is a
discipline, not a doctrine. In 305 A.D. the Council of Elvira in Spain,
while not forbidding marriage, passed the first decree on celibacy for
all bishops, priests and those who served at the altar. The Ecumenical Council of Nicea in 325 decreed that a priest could not marry after ordination.
Pope Siricius (who left his wife to become Pope) in 385, commanded
celibacy for bishops, priests and deacons. In 1123, the First Lateran
Council forbade clergy to marry and decreed that those who had must dissolve their unions.None of these edicts were decisions by an ecumenical council of all the Christian Churches in Apostolic Succession.
the United States, most people associate Catholic with Roman Catholic.
But the Catholic Church is a communion of "23 churches," each
recognizing the leadership of the Pope while maintaining their own
distinctitive identities and disciplines. The Latin Church, which is
commonly known as the Roman Catholic Church, has a discipline of
mandatory priestly celibacy, most of the Eastern Catholic Churches do
"Holy Matrimony" - Is offered to those who have been
previously married, without pre-condition. No Roman Catholic Church
Annulment is required. We believe that
marriage is a Sacrament, but divorce and remarriage are realities. We do
not believe that divorce is the "unforgivable sin," nor do we believe
that divorce should bar anyone from the ministry and the Sacraments of
with mostly 'displaced Catholics', those who have left the Church for
any number of reasons. We are here to serve them when they need a
Priest, without question or condition. Ours is a 'Urban/Suburban
Serving Those in Need
"We are an Independent Catholic Family of Faith"
in the Old Catholic Church understand that there are many who do not
belong to a specific church or denomination, or who feel alienated from a
former church that they have belonged, yet are in need of a Priest to
perform a Catholic Service, such as a Baptism, Reconciliation, Holy
Communion, Marriage, Anointing, Funeral Service, or Home Blessing.
also understand that not all may be very "religious" and that their
needs and requests may differ from the "traditional" Catholic Service.
We know that trying to plan for any Service is hard enough without a
Priest adding additional requirements or demands. We are flexible and
are willing to work with the faithful and to accommodate their
individual needs and desires; within the context of Christian worship.
the occasion arise when you or a family member are in need of a Priest
to perform a Catholic Service, please call and we will be glad to serve
those in need.
Please see all the Services available on this site.
We are available to serve you by offering Services at your home, a
reception or banquet venue, parks or beaches, funeral homes, cemeteries,
or other place of your choosing.
All clergy are self-sustaining, not receiving a salary from the church.
If you might be interested in thinking about this further, here is an explanation of how this wedding ministry views denominations and various religions:
Over the two thousand years of Christianity there have been many, many different "rites" (which are simply names for different ways of living and celebrating Christianity within the "One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.")
From the time of the apostle Paul, local "churches" were organized around a "bishop," whose authority was considered to be in service to the people of God rather than dictatorial, and whose designation was passed on from the apostles ("Apostolic Succession").
At the beginning of this third millennium, there are many, many expressions of Christianity - from fundamentalist to progressive.
Within the Catholic portion of Christianity, there are now over 200 different rites. The largest, of course, is the Roman rite, with about 950 million members. The Eastern Orthodox Church has about 300 million members (2 million or so in the United States). The Eastern Orthodox have not been in communion with Rome for the last 900 years, but are as "Catholic" as "Catholics." About half the Catholic rites now in existence (Catholic "rites" are similar to Protestant "denominations") are in communion with Rome, and half are not.
There are also many Protestant Christian denominations, now numbering about 450 million followers, which originally arose to reform the abuses and scandals within the Catholic Church in the 15th-18th centuries.
These Christians adhere to the essentials of the Gospels of Jesus, just as do Catholics and Orthodox. The non-essentials that separate the various Christian denominations are relatively unimportant ... they are differences that arose after the time of Christ, of the Apostles, of the New Testament writers and of the Early Church.
They are differences that might have made little difference to the earliest disciples of Christ. For the first several hundred years of the Church's history, the position of the Bishop of Rome (the Pope) was quite secondary in the formation and sustaining of the Church. It still is considered quite secondary among the Eastern Orthodox and the Protestant denominations.
For hundreds of years after that, at least through the 8th century, he was looked at primarily as the "bridge builder" (the Latin word "pontifex," from which the word "pontiff" comes, means "bridge builder"), the one who did not take sides but who was open to all. The temporal and spiritual power of the Pope (in the West only) was solidified beyond first millennium recognition during the last 1,000 years, due to early political threats, church abuse and scandals followed by breakaways and hardened positions, and by simple human predilection.
This marriage ministry was started by Rev. James Burch, who is the coordinating bishop of the Catholic Diocese of One Spirit (www.OneSpiritCatholic.org
He is one of literally thousands upon thousands of priests who, beginning with the systematic glutting of Vatican II that took hold in the late 1960s and early 1970s, felt that the beautiful spirituality and liturgies of the Catholic Church had simply acquired too much baggage for a great many people, the church seemed to have become a gatekeeper to keep people out rather than welcome them in. There were too many categories of people who were not welcome, whereas Christ had no barriers to anybody at all.
There were dogmas and doctrines hardened in stone, despite the fact that few thought in the references anymore that those dogmas and doctrines were framed in.
There were too many rules and regulations for what you had to do and what you had to think to avoid going to hell, whereas Christ simply showed that God was Love in which we participate, told stories and asked people what they thought (he respected them wherever they were), and gave ideals to live by, rather than criteria to avoid "hell."
So, we thought, could we do less? It seemed like a pretty good set of principles to return to. This Wedding Ministry follows those principles.
I have a valid and recognized Apostolic Succession from my ordination by Bishop Jim Burch, and a copy of said succession is available by contacting me directly.
This Apostolic Succession is what makes me valid and allows me to be your loophole priest.